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Have you ever listened the irish band PRIMORDIAL? They have a strange pagan-/folk-sound and the shouter has an exceptional voice. But they are very great artists. The music is absolutely sad.

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They've been on my big list of "bands to check out", I'll definately listen to them soon Smile

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Sounds good
Might check 'em out... Once I'm out of my Jazz period Smile

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They have loads of albums, do you have any personal favorite?
I'm just going to grab "The Gathering Wilderness" and give it a spin Smile

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Primordial are gods.Their music is far beyond conception,being something different than music and becoming more..LIFE.Every riff and every word that those gods create is full with melancholy,sadness,pride,glory,failure..with everything that makes a human to be a human.Every album becomes more than just an abstract definition,becomes a world that is just immortal."I am just a heathen searching for my soul..." That song and many others made me cry.I remained not impressed,but far more than this.Primordial changed practically my life from the first touch.
The voice of Neanthanga is the most formidable voice that ever walked on this wretched world,full with..darn,I can't describe it.
Is just beyond my normal thinking...probably that's why Primordial creates to me an incompresurable state of existance,a meditation that take place in the highest place of the mind.

gods again damn it you may really think it
10 times you said it to me about but now i think i got it they are "gods"

oh Odin should i raise him?
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Well,There are lots of bands that makes pure music,lots of bands that makes noise and such.But there are just very few bands that makes ART.Primordial makes part of the last group...

& what band isnt art? ensiferum isnt? (for exemple)

(will it gonna turn battle here or what? lol)
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Err..Krissy,I already told you.Ensiferum is cool,indeed.Lovely music...but comes a but here.. it can't be compared with latest Primordial albums.THe gathering wilderness and To the nameless dead have been declared albums of the year when they appeared.Only 1 album is somehow comparable with Primordial,I am talking about Ensiferum self titled album.But comparable,not better or at least equal.In my humble heathen opinion. :-)

in pv you said :

Cyberax :
Ensiferum,really..is music,but..not art.'

now what i say:
But MUSIC is ART
Well This is ABOUT Philosophy. And YEAH Would be too long to debate.

Then Tastes:
you said "it can't be compared with latest Primordial albums"

but I say: i'm sorry but Victory songs kicked my ass & i played that album for several months everyday. Although Primordial didnt create the same effect in me. And if they are "gods" for you then i guess it means all their material kick ass. but you see, for me this happens with Ensiferum (with both singers).

Remember that......
.................We're all different !

Oh yeah you also talked about "noise"
DS/BM isnt art? then i think yr wrong again...
& have you heard about noise & experimental genres (nothing metal) , but things like Sonic Youth, Glenn Branca & such.. you'd be surprise how much noise can be so artistically well made sometimes.
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When I said noise I didn't said nothing about dsbm. :d Yeah,in dsbm are lots of bands that are noise,lots of bands that makes music and very few bands that makes art.For your knowledge I listen to lots of experimental bands,and the logic applies to them too.Lots of them are just garbage.You've already told me about Victory songs(and I told you already that is weak in comparison with older albums,doesn't have passion in it and looked a little hurried to be launched) but seriously now..can Victory songs entangle your mind and soul just like The gathering wilderness does?I don't think so..Ensiferum is somehow a more relaxing music,good to listen when you come from work tired and to relax with it..but Primordial is different.When listening to Primordial,you enter in a deep state of thinking,a meditative form of existance.Primordial is something that can't be listen in background when you work or something,but only when your mind is free so you can confront it's music with full power.
And about experimental stuff,you should try RA,a solo project of ex Agathodaimon vocalist,Radu Andrei.It's lyrics talks about romanian poetry in a metaphisical way.Yeah,is experimental,but is music and art almost.

Now back to Primordial and other bands. Very Happy

Probably for some of us,their music is simple,long,repetitive and just like many others..but for others it becomes a center of meditation,a core of philosophy and heathenism.Their riffs & voice are somehow cosmical,resonating with in this case my soul. Very Happy

And as I said,"In my heathen opinion",so yeah,is my opinion.I respect yours and I am not telling you to adopt mine. :-P

Well, I just listened to To The Nameless Dead and have to say I'm very impressed with it.
I enjoyed this a lot more than The Gathering Wilderness (although this probably is an album that takes some more time to sink in).

About the discussion going on over here.
I agree with Krissy about her music is art statement.
But on the other hand, I understand what Cyberaxe is trying to say.
Same thing happened with me when I listened to Paysage d'Hiver, for example.
Paysage's stuff isn't really classifiable as "music", yet it takes you into another world (well, me at least).
It's a feeling that resonates within you, yet you can't really describe it, which makes it even more a piece of art.
Bands like, say, Turisas to pick one, make great music, and certainly can be called "art", but some things are just on another level.
(trying to explain as best as I can )
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PS:the nickname is Cyberax,with no e at final. Wink

u didnt read well i think , wE'RE ALL DIFFERENT Very Happy

happily!! cuz we couldnt fight if we're all clones! Razz

well u mentioned experimental but noise genre Razz

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well for dsbm, noise, experimental and i guess soem other genres, its harder to fall into & you'll find them just "noisy" until you get the "thing". Was like that for me with dsbm & experimetal. ITs about catching certain feelings, and understandign some things. for exemple when i discovered DSBM, i couldnt say i dont like nor that i like....but have just put them aside until i get the thing & now today i really like it.

by the way "a core of philosophy " you said but you also cant see the Art in Philosophy../.

"so yeah,is my opinion.I respect yours and I am not telling you to adopt mine" Happily & i wont btw IM SO STRONG (HAIL VIKINGAR ENSIFERUMMM!!!! viking2

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